Mark I would like to buy your scope unless you have one with a red dot . That`s the single reason I bought a 416 Rem Mag! The .416s are much more shootable, especially in a rifle of adequate weight (ten pounds or more). By 1958, he had his own Mark V Action that easily held the cartridge and two below it in the straight-feed magazine. However, the various lower .40s with, 400-grain bullets at roundabout 2,400 fps, produce more energyand do it with heavier bullets with greater frontal area. The former is based on the huge, proprietary .378 Weatherby case, but the latter was a derivative of the belted Holland & Holland family. Shooting uphill, the 400-grain bullet entered just in front of the earhole and exited on the opposite side. Expectional free range common reedbuck. You are using an out of date browser. Available in 12 and 20ga., and a 22" barrel. I wanted to get a really good measure of the variation in POI for different loads. I have heard/read so many people praise the .416 Rigby -- which in this range of cartridges means they are happy to trust their lives to it, when there are many other details they will complain bitterly about such as PushFeed vs. CRF -- that I have no doubt it is more than enough in its traditional loads. It does not store any personal data. [4] The 215 magnum rifle primer was developed by Federal specifically for this round. CALL 662-494-0779 or email amorris@sbfgllc.com for firearm inquiries. (June 2022) The .416 Weatherby Magnum is a belted, bottlenecked cartridge designed by Ed Weatherby and launched commercially in 1989. Even the 378 will make you sit up and take notice. The behemoth .30-378 Weatherby is the largest of the .300 magnums. The extra 340 was taken in trade, is like new and for sale. If I wanted to go really big on a long range monster killer I'd just go all in and probably build either a .375 or .408 Cheytac. It is used to enable interoperability with urchin.js, which is an older version of Google Analytics and is used in conjunction with the __utmb cookie to determine new sessions/visits. Not only is the 378 Weatherby Magnum capable of taking a T-Rex, even from a safe distance, in the Mark V Deluxe it is a very pretty rifle. THE 416 IS THE BEST CHOICE. Available in 12ga., 3" chambering. These days there is so little dangerous game that is being hunted, what what there is of it, a 375 H+H handles it well enough. [4] Don Heath wrote an article quite a while ago -- after 1991 -- bemoaning a lot of cartridges and rifles, the .416 rem in mod 700 among them. Having said that, the 416 Rem I had built on a 700 was exceedingly reliable in every category. The .375 Weatherby and RUM hit more like a .416 than a .375, and the big .378 is awesome but especially vicious in recoil. The .416 and the .240 Weatherby are the only 2 cartridges in the line that do not have a longer throat as even today's Weatherby's do not have the publicized freebore that was promoted back when the Mark V's were made in Germany with a lot of 12" twists across the range. A few years ago, an extensive test was conducted using three dBA meters placed at different distances and angles from the muzzle of a 300 Winchester Magnum. This cookie is set by Hubspot whenever it changes the session cookie. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Using existing cases, a number of non-standard or wildcat cartridges were developed using the .416 bullet. Without question they used George Hoffmans work and their cartridge was almost identical to hisexcept Remington used their own 8mm Remington Magnum case, with a slightly different neck and less body taper. The action was milled out to accomodate a 95mm (Sorry, don't know the inches)internal magazine box and the feed ramp polished and shaped to feed slick. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". The block also does not include the 375 Weatherby Magnum or the 220 Weatherby Rocket. The design is like a Partition, except for having quite a heavier "H-shaped" copper structure, which in turn allows for slower expansion than the Partition, and this is very useful at . YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. They can be driven in the mid- 2600 fps range, and are as deadly as Kryptonite. He took the .375 H&H, blew out. I have not played with it in a few years, but with the high bc bullets available now, I have dusted it off. Ive used it at high temperatures in Cameroon, the Zambezi Valley and coastal Mozambique. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. I would like to see them actualy build the Taylor on the Hawkeye. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. A couple of weeks later, Peter Johnstone and I approached a bachelor group of elephants feeding in dense mopane. This was Ed Weatherbys first cartridge after the death of his father, Roy Weatherby, in 1988. Boxes, International Addresses, AK, CA, HI, MA, CT, IL, NJ, NY nor DC residents. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. My .338 RUM and my .338 Win Mag are both Weatherby's. Doesn't some of the African countries still require a 40 caliber weapon or larger on the "big five" ? Sometimes you just buy what feels right. Yes on all of your pressure conclusions. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: .416 Rigby with maximum handloads (400 gr at 2710 fps). Two huge pigs later, both one shot kills..its amazing to use a 416 Weatherby. The .378 Weatherby Magnum was designed by Roy Weatherby in 1953. Along similar lines, the .458 win does do now what it had been promised to do, but had been unable to do given the bullets and powders around when it was introduced. The.416 Weatherby is much faster, with 400-grain bullet at 2,600 to 2,700 fps, yielding more than 6,000 ft-lbs. $3,023.99. Number 2. WBY Ammo .378 Weatherby Magnum 300Gr. I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. Vhita Vhouri has pressure tested loads with their powders and carried it beyonnd the Rigby levels with good pressures. The year was 1985. Adopted by several African game departments, the. I've fired .416 Rigby's that didn't kick anymore than a light weight .300 RUM. Frndi fkk a prufa 416 Weatherby Magnum,hann fkk sm bakslag og undrunar svipurinn er orginal,Held a g hafi sjaldan skemmt mr eins vel og arna:-)My co. 30-378 Wby 200 Partition is 9.1 low at 400 with a 300 yd 0. Today, those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges. Velocity overcomes resistance, and frontal area creates more resistance. I still trust the .375. This is ironic because the very first .416 Taylor rifle built was buiilt by Winchester.Bill Ruger kept a 77 in .416 Taylor for his personal use. This is the main cookie set by Hubspot, for tracking visitors. I replaced them with another crf .30-06 (shoots all ammo better), a 7mm rem mag (now have two rifles in that caliber -- something I wanted), which also shoots ammo well. While the statistics of the .378 are heroic, Glenn reminds us, "As we've read, there are many stories floating around the big game hunting circles of the 378's bullet failures on heavy game. Google Analytics sets this cookie to inhibit request rate. The cookie is set by Google Analytics and is deleted when the user closes the browser. 8^} reflex264. Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. I'd go with the .416. I have learned a while ago not to give up good shooters. I had a 416 Rigby for a while and then I had a 416 Remington for a longer while and I liked the Remington a lot. T/C's new .416 is a Rigby, not a .416 Rem and it is single shot. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. I once read that the .416wby 1 gun safari would be hard to beat Statistically speaking, so that there is no confusion when comparing the performance of the .378 Weatherby Magnum to the .416 Rigby, understand that the .378 Weatherby Magnum pushes out a projectile that is not only faster but, more powerful than that flying from a .416 Rigby. Available in 12 and 20ga. The big Rigby case required an extra-large magnum action; supply was limited, and costs were high. Roy Weatherby introduced this extremely powerful cartridge in 1953, and at that time paired it up with the 1917 Enfield and later the Brevex Magnum Mauser action. Yeah but you don't need to mistrust one rifle just to add another. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. It contains the domain, initial timestamp (first visit), last timestamp (last visit), current timestamp (this visit), and session number (increments for each subsequent session). All loads were tested at 100 yards. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I am not knocking the ideal of a .375 Ruger based .416. Lee even offers a set of dies priced like 30-06 dies. Even now componants are very inexpensive compared to the Rigby and correct headstamp brass is readily availible. This cookie is set by Hubspot whenever it changes the session cookie. High gloss Turkish walnut stock. I can't think of a better reason to explain to the wife why I need another safe. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. Their .378/.460 case is dimensionally the same as the .416 Rigby case, except the Weatherby version wears a belt. Weatherby's .30-378 is the .378 Weatherby Magnum necked down to .30 caliber and can drive a 180-grain bullet in excess of 3,400 fps. I keep hearing these stories of the dreaded recoil of the .460 Weatherby - retinas detaching, shoulders dislocating, etc. I would go with the .416 also. However the 30/378 with 210 grain partitions has jaw dropping ballistics. . The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. 5,097. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. 378 Weatherby Magnum This lucite Cartridge Block is now obsolete, because it does not contain the new-for-2016 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum. Weatherby Vanguard .270Win Boyd's laminated Thumbhole stock Timney trigger Glass bedded barrel, action Vortex Diamonback 4-12x40 Dead hold BDC reticle for accuracy up to 700m Im an average shooter but manage 1/3" at 100m I Reloaded for this rifle Recipe will be included as well as 50 loads I previously prepared. Forgot to mention that I also owned the .416 Remington which was made up on a .458 Supergrade Model 70, with Remington Factory barrel rethreaded to the action. I hit him on the shoulder with the first shot, then again as he turned away. Elastomer stock. The 416 has quickly become one of the best all-around cartridges for Africa. And, when .416 Rigby ammo was almost unavailable, .404 Jeffery (10.75x73mm) ammo was still loaded in Germany. Tell me what you need. OR IS MORE ACCURATE.. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. Why, the .416 Taylor is .35 inch shorter, allowing for a shorter bolt throw! Theyre all good, and on game much the same. That is because they are both high speed bullets. The problem for many of the higher pressure cartridges being the heat where such big shells are used. I doubt there was any problem doing that even with older brass (and for many years the only brass readily available was Weatherby with the belt turned off) but today's fine brass from Norma and Federal is very stout. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. I have the Rigby version which, when compared to the Weatherby, is a pussycat. Well, 2 pages of comments and no one answered the question. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Bill Ruger proclaimed that it was his favorite DG cartridge and even built a few 77 and #1 rifles but stopped production because (never verified) W-W was supposed to produce ammo for them and decided not to. Founded by Roy Weatherby in 1945 in South Gate, California, the original rifles were custom guns made to order on Mauser actions. The only issue would be ammo availability in a pinch which is why, on many blogs, you will hear the praise for the .375 Weatherby because it outperforms the .375 H&H and, if you run out of ammo it can shoot the .375 H&H. It was still a bit of a novelty when I took it to Tanzania in 1988but not for long. A true rifle loonie is not required to justify his choice in cartridges solely on the merits of a given cartridge. Matte-finished metalwork and stock. I've had my best success with 350 TSXs and Magnum in the .378, but the 350 SMK performs well with H1000 too (seated just . This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. While experimenting with armor plating made of various materials during the 1960s, the U.S. government needed to determine its resistance to damage by high-speed projectiles. Better expanding bulletsfrom Barnes and otherswere just around the corner, but the old Original worked fine. I've heard of hunters shooting Cape Buffalo in spooky situations and reporting no remembered recoil. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. .416 Weatherby Magnum (400 grain at MV 2700 fps) - 232.7 .460 Weatherby Magnum (500 grain at MV 2600 fps) - 332.3 The above list is only approximate, as a great variety of loads are possible for any centerfire rifle cartridge and no method of estimating killing power is infallible. Weatherby factory loads are offered with a 350 grain Barnes Tipped TSX bullet at a MV of 2880 fps and a 400 grain RN expanding bullet at a MV of 2700 fps with 6474 ft . In the days before the .416 revival both .410/.411-inch bullets and .423-inch bullets were used for American wildcat and proprietary cartridges. With the addition of long bullets in these calibers I believe that they would be valid contenders for long range hunting in both accuracy and down range engery. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. The Jeffery case could be crammed into a .375-length action. Cloudflare sets this cookie to improve page load times and to disallow any security restrictions based on the visitor's IP address. (600 to 700 yards or so) I had a Shilen barrel put on along with a McMillan A5 stock. USA. I have bought several guns for no other reason than memories of articles I read growing up. Capacity: Floor Plate. Anyway, the old 270 grain Spire Point at the speed of light was very impressive on deer and elk. Good old American handloaders were keeping classic calibers alive, thanks to Fred Huntington at RCBS for the diesand Randy and Coni Brooks at Barnes Bullets. A few years ago I bought a .338-.378 Weatherby, which I have never shot because the loaded shells run $150/ box! Hunted. Bolt. The .338-378 has devoted fans in the long-range hunting sub-culture, but only exceeded the .340 Weatherby's muzzle velocity by 119 fps; a small reward for the huge recoil it produces. Primarily because they work! This is a silly argument. When loaded to near Rigby velocity none of the famous shooters ever had a problem with cartridges sticking or being underpowered. In the .378 Weatherby, high muzzle velocities of 3200 to 3300fps help a great deal to generate hydraulic wounding on game weighing up to 600kg (1300lb). Long, long ago (1944), in a land that no longer exists called the United States of America, Roy Weatherby designed a new .375 cartridge to which he gave his name. Available in 12 and 20ga. Must be 18 or older to purchase a firearm. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. Matte-finished metalwork and stock. That (given the prices) is a huge blessing!! Even just the new brass is $75/ box. Its big brother, the .378 Weatherby Magnum, was introduced in 1953. It's as if one after the other tried to top the previous guy in his use of adjectives. Looking at my 2010 Weatherby catalog: 300 Wby 200 Partition is 9.8 in low at 400 yds with a 300 yd 0. It weighed 397 grains. I have a .416 Wby mag that I used to play around with at semi long range. Action: Bolt-Finish: FDE/Black Dual . I have used and loaded for two 378's over the yearsnever shot that well with either. Performance is, if not equal, too similar to call. A TRULY THE MOST AWESOME HUNT AND RIFLE. They do produce more recoil, so its important to be honest when you look in the mirror: Can you shoot such a cartridge well? ODT Junkie! Enter American handloaders. Available in 12 and 20ga., and a 22" barrel. In testing Ive done in ballistic wax the .416s always out-penetrate the slower big-bores. As for the bullet diameter, there were other choices. I wanted to zero it on Hornady 500 gr softs, and see which solids came closest. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Matte finish. Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. Performance was awesome, but please note that, when you add a couple hundred more feet per second recoil goes up sharply! Combining 1911-vintage propellants with use in the tropics, .416 Rigby ammo was always loaded to low pressure. Toll Free (888) 486-8724 378 Weatherby Mag 300 Grain Soft Point 20 Rounds Weatherby Ammunition 378 Weatherby Magnum. I have been giving some thought to the new Ruger rifle and what kind of .416 it might become. Then take another box or two with you. Far more importantly, Ive seen solids from the great Nitro Express cartridges, consistently about 2,150 fps, fail to penetrate on elephant, especially with the tricky frontal brain shot. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I have a .416 Rigby and .458 WM, so have no first-hand experience with either of the Weatherby cartridges. Randy Brooks of Barnes Bullets told me he likes the 350 grain X bullet from a 416 Rem (probably the TXS nowadays) for everything including elephant, and IIRC, his load was in the 2550-2600 fps range which again is not a hot load. George Hoffman never forgave thembut he still deserves much credit for the .416 revival. I was worried for a hot minute that the .460 might be more accurate, but I had impressive results with both during my last couple trips to the range. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. The Rigby case can indeed be loaded up to right around .416 Weatherby pressures and velocities, no problem, and in fact some manuals list those loads. The 378 WM is a much larger base diameter and case than the old Rubberby cartridges based on the .375 H&H case. I do know that the .416 Rigby case is only designed for around 52000 CUP and the 378 around 56000 - even though I've heard of people pushing the 378 to 65000 CUP. All ammunition is shipped domestic ground and an adult signature is required. As a young wildcatter, he revolutionized the industry with his fast, hard-hitting loads that were dead-on accurate. The one bullet I recovered went through the upper leg, the top of the heart and lodged on the other side. Matte finish with synthetic stock. lbs is quite an increase in footpounds over the lott at 2300ft/sec. Shorter 12-1/2 stock and 24 barrel. Weatherby has developed several rounds by necking down their awe-inspiring .378; the .300-378 and .338-378. My .375 RUM is on a custom Rem 700 and I've taken it on two hunt trips to Africa. I have read this and found it very interesting. Of course, you can increase the velocity on a big bore. This cookie is set by the Google recaptcha service to identify bots to protect the website against malicious spam attacks. Gunwriter John Wootters was a huge fan of the .416 Taylor; largely through his urging it almost became a factory cartridge twice, but didnt quite happen. The latter is only available from Weatherby, Nosler and HSM, while nearly every self-respecting manufacturer offers a .338 Winchester load. Residents of DE, KS, OH, and WA may have additional restrictions. Dan the 400gr Swifts hold up perfectly. The .411 KDF used a .411-inch bullet, as does the .400 H&H (developed in 2003). If I had the use for one of these lasers, I would love to have one, but the woods I hunt in barely give me a shot over 100 yards. reflex264. De .416 Weatherby Magnum gebruikt dezelfde behuizing als de .378 Weatherby Magnum en de .460 Weatherby Magnum. I does have plenty, but not as much as some of the exaggerators claim. Nothing runsit blasts them so hard they just collapse. Your email address will not be published. Toll Free (888) HUNT-SCI The .450/.400, with a 400-grain bullet at about 2,100 fps, is much slower and produces less energy, about 4,000 ft-lbs. Unfortunately, 40-caliber rifles and larger are required for hunting some species of dangerous game in various countries in Africa. I'm having a tough time deciding.so fire away with any thoughts or experiences as I'm open! Available in 12ga., 3" and 3.5" chamberings. I have both "controlled " and "uncontrolled " bolt action rifles. Peter led us inthis was happening fast and my palms were slick with sweat in the evening cool. All of these SDs exceed that of the 300-grain .375, SD .305, a bullet well-known for great penetration. It is a shame how a number of good cartridges (.458 win, .416 rem, etc) have suffered perhaps unjustly given modern components. At the same time Federal brought out a modern load for the .470 Nitro Express, so it wasnt just the .416 that was being revived in that crazy year of 1988-1989! Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. Any Rifle Chambered in .375, .378, .416 or .460 Weatherby Magnum Founded by legendary hunter Roy Weatherby, Weatherby Firearms produces some particularly high-quality rifles like the Mark V and the Vanguard models. A couple of smaller bulls passedand then the big bull stepped forward. $0.00 sold out. Compare 9mm ammo in stock prices. Weatherby's cartridges have been first and foremost about speed, so when a . Early batches of Remington 400 gr. Original trigger and polymer stock included Shot about 300 rounds with it from new . I hunt the big bruins with a 378 and it does a great job. But I am not sure why you really need another 2100 ft.lbs over a 458 lott. If it makes you happy by all means buy it. It does not store any personal data. I would like to purchase these. The .416 rem has some small scope (Burris short mag 4x; hope was that fixed power had fewer moving parts, more solid per $ so far, hasn't given me sorrow). By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Weatherby Mark V Dangerous Game .416 Weatherby Magnum 2-Round 26" Bolt Action Rifle in Blued - DGM416WR6B. Just buy a good aftermarket stock of the style that works best for you. This cookie is set by Google Analytics and is used to distinguish users and sessions. The 30/378 will knock your block off. Jack Atcheson Jr. and I started in Botswanas Okavango, then shifted to Matetsi in northwest Zimbabwe; it was my first elephant, another first with a .416. I found that the Hornady 500 gr solids showed 2.5 inches deviation at 8:00 (very sad), whereas the 500 gr Speer AGS was 1.5" at 12:00 (which is very close to optimum by my reckoning) at 100 yards. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I know that some shooters leaned on the Taylor pretty hard. Retained as a proprietary cartridge, rifles and ammo were only available from Rigby. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". 340 Wby 200 Sp Is 9.9 in low at 400 yds with a 300 yd 0. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". It drives a 500-grain bullet to 2,600 fps, for over 7,500 ft.-lbs. The 6.5/300 will go just as quickly. In a heavy gun with a good muzzle break I do not think recoil would be an issue. If budget is a concern (in both rifles and ammo) then the .416 Remington or .416 Ruger are sound options. Ballistics and Drop for the .416 Weatherby Magnum Cartridge Type: Height: 2.913" Width: 0.579" Average FPS: 2720 Average Energy: 6373 Average Gr: 388 Recoil: 4.77 *Casing image above is an artist rendering and not a real photo of .416 Weatherby Magnum Ballistics cartridge. All Firearms. etc., and am always amused. A friend and I are seriously pondering making the trip to the Dark Continent to kill one of those ugly cows they have over there..local call them Cape Cows or something.